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I had a chance to look at your Tantra site. Intriguing! Fascinating! Well done! I like all the connections!!
08th August 2001
Thanks for your recent communication, really loved the Yantra site, I’ve been spreading the word!
David Culhane, Dublin.
25th July 2001
Just a quickie to say CONGRAULATIONS on your website, how wonderful! And many thanks for all the info sent my way - I network it as best I can (and enjoy it myself of course).
Shena Lamb, Port Elizabeth
18th July 2001
I think your Yantra site is quite wonderful. A real service of love, for those who appreciate. Sheila Fugard, California.
18th July 2001
Hi, Your site is wonderful and I look forward to the time to read and look more. Well done!
LoveJeunesse Parks, Johannesburg.
16th July 2001
I am mesmerized by your site. Would you have time to provide any insight as
to why both the rose window and the Islamic yantra have 8 manifestations
emanating from the center. I have an interest in Pythagorean symbolism
especially as it relates to Islamic esotericism and kabbalistic studies. I
would also be interested in your conception of how the unmanifest becomes
manifest. Warm Regards ~ Jill
17th JULY 2001
Thank you for your kind response on the Yantra site - would you be so kind as tell me how you found the site?
I think that your questions are in themselves, enormous, and perhaps lifetime or two would suffice to answer them.
C. G. Jung has given a great deal of information about what in this context we can call the archetype of 8-ness, especially for example, in his great opus 'Psychology and Alchemy'. [The number eight is entered in the Index under NUMBERS.]
From another perspective, the Number 8 does not exist, without bringing into consideration the Centre - which would mean that 8 is actually 9.
Re: "Pythagorean symbolism especially as it relates to Islamic esotericism and kabbalistic studies.." here again, one is brought low in humility when confronted with the wealth of material that is available on these subjects.
And as "…how the unmanifest becomes manifest…." That is a question I would prefer to put to H.H. the Dalai Lama!
The Sacred Tarot is a useful transmission to help us create order from this oceanic amount of knowledge that is available to us today. I spent some time looking at the Number 8 - in connection with Arcanum 8 - on my Archetypal Tarot Website.
Go to the Main Index - follow the Archetypal Tarot link - and shop around until you find the ARCANUM 8 material.
Re: Islamic esotericism - this is also an area that interests me greatly - and I have gathered some material - the key area here is of course - Harran - and the so-called Sabians. At the moment there is a slight Renaissance of interest in Harran - most people have never even heard of it - but it remains the Bethlehem of Hermeticism…I would like to publish this material on the Web as well - when time and economy permits.
We find 'eightness' in Harran as well - and I suppose we could trace a particular esoteric transmission across the millennia by the NUMBER codes that act as its container. Certainly Henry Corbin gave some insight into numerology and esoteric esotericism, in his various writings. On this level, which is an initiatory, transmission matrix - we can again, excavate [from existence itself, so to speak] a yantra!
For example, why there are only a certain amount of initiates at any given time - this was expressed very simply in Jim Henson's film 'The Dark Crystal ' which incidentally, was one of the first films to use Yantra in the sense I am considering here. I suppose we would have to consider the relationship, if any, between yantras - and the pentagrams of classical magic. But that is an area that I steer clear of, as it has its darker side.
Instead, we need to do an exhaustive research on the yantras in the Collected Works of Giordano Bruno - a vast task indeed. Some have been published, here and there - especially in the works of Dame Francis Yates; and a few by Elmire Zola in his book on The Divine Androgyne.
Eightness, also appears in Gnosticism - and in the environment of Paracelsus.
The Eight-Petaled Lotus is of course, fundamental to Hindu and Tibetan sadhanas, and is associated with one or another of the chakras, depending on which system is being used.
Indeed, I would say I am not too keen on the yantra as a fixed object - but more interested in seeing its manifestations as a living dynamic principle, the pattern of the energy field. Even archetypal psychology would do with vivifying its 'concept' of the archetype - according to some Buddhist thinking, a concept is a stable structure at the end of a process. Though a yantra is a stable structure, as a painting or form - it is the process that we should be paying attention too! This would apply to eightness as well.
Samten de Wet
15th July 2001]
Why I find your yantra notes so inspirational is because these past two months I have been 'called' more and more towards using my artistic leanings towards painting yantric images. The trouble is that it is such a radical departure from what I sell ..... because I don't see yantric type paintings as being commercially attractive for these galleries.
Do you know anything about "Astro Biological Co-energetics" (ABC)? I find the whole theory absolutely resonant with wherever my own vibes exist - if not I can email you an article. I think you would find it very interesting too, especially in the light of yantras and all that surrounds your notes.
Yes, love and peace to you too
Joanne Taylor, Ireland
14 July 2001
Thanks, Samten. I look forwards to discovering this!
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14 July 2001
Congratulations, remember to mirror the site somewhere on another continent, just in case. www.geocities.com has free webspace.
David Robert Lewis, Cape Town.
13th July 2001
This site is absolutely brilliant and coincidentally very much along the lines my art/mind has been progressing...
I sincerely believe that things happen to each one of us as and when they are supposed to, and the fact that your site has 'happened' to me is......humbling
that is the only way I can describe it.
13th July 2001
I wonder how many people know how brilliant you are, you light up the sky like a star, I sometimes feel like I'm faced with a genus, and that makes me feel humble, keep the light burning brother. I love you my friend.~~~
The Shadowcatcher - ( Freeman ) - United States.
13th July 2001
What a gift, Samten! I shall read with pleasure, awe, and hopefully grokking!
"You think that treasures should be buried? That is the opinion of avaricious men. For what is the use of hidden music? Mysteries are always mysteries, so long as they are not conveyed to profane ears."
Deborah Mattingly Conner.
Monday, 16 July 2001
"Any attempt to penetrate the pagan mysteries of the Renaissance should perhaps begin with the admission that the term 'mysteries' has several meanings, and that these already tended to become blurred in antiquity, to the great enrichment and confusion of the subject."
I have always thought that this is one of the most delicious sentences, with which to start a book. What I love about this sentence, is the proximity of the two seemingly opposed words enrichment and confusion. In fact, we are almost in the territory of the language which emanates out of Ven Trungpa Rinpoche, and in particular, the Shambhala Teachings. To lift Edgar Wind's words, out of their context, may be unforgivable, but any explorations into the subject of the Pagan Mysteries in the Renaissance, is both enriching and confusing at the same time. Buddhism does not layer confusion with negative connotations - but sees it as a state in preparation for opening to the Teachings themselves. In fact, confusion has a metaphysical strategy of its own. The scaffold of logic that imprisons thought is loosened - and all manner of rich insights can, and do flood in, when we are confused.
Naturally, confusion, would be Dionysian. One would have to search for confusion in The Bacchae of Euripides. A mother must be confused, if she tears her own son to pieces. The Hypnerotomachia Poliphilia of Francesco Colonna is very confused, as it should be, set in a dream landscape. And yet it is this great Renaissance classic, that some of the most profound initiatory secrets of paganism, are released, in a contemporary setting. Of course, we would have to rewrite the use of the word pagan in the light of the work of James Hillman and Rafael Lopez-Pedraza. And the neo and post-Jungians in general. Then there are those unfortunate people who call themselves neo-pagans, who have really missed the boat completely. Or missed the goat!
The word pagan itself, is very loaded, and is in need of a thorough, refreshing re-working. Signs of which are already in the air.
Anyhow, enough ramble on Edgar Wind - I must dip into my copy again, which was gifted to me by a friend after much searching of bookshops.
Love and Peace - Samten